Q&A Bank Part 2 - 28:

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  1. nageshmcl

    nageshmcl Member

    The aggregate claims process for a risk is a compound Poisson process. The expected number of claims each year is 0.5 and individual claim amounts have the following distribution:
    P[claim amount =1] = 0.5
    P[claim amount =2] =0.25
    P[claim amount =3] =0.25
    Let U(t) denote the insurer’s surplus at time t . The insurer’s surplus at time 0 is 0.5 and the insurer charges a premium of 1 each year to insure this risk.
    Calculate the probability:p[U(t) < 0 for t = 1 or 2].

    In the solution, A table is given to find the sum of the probabilities
    P(S(1)<1.5) , P(S(2)<2.5).

    My doubt is the whether the table is designed to apply the Convolutions concept by treating S(1) & S(2) as independent random variables? Thats why the probabilities are multiplied ? Please clarify.

    Alternative to this can i follow the below approach to find the indivdual probabilities :

    P(S(1) < 1.5) = P(S(1) = 0) + P(S(1) = 1)

    We know P(S(1) = 0) = P(N=0) //N ~ Poi(0.5)
    And P(S(1)=1) = P(N=1) * P(X=1) // X is claim amount, P(X=1)= 0.5.

    P(S(2) < 2.5 ) = P(S2=0) + P(S2=1) + P(S2=2)

    P(S2=2) = P(N=1)*P(X=2)+P(N=2)*P(X=1)*P(X=1) //N ~ Poi(0.5)

    By following this approach, i am getting the final ans 0.388. In the material it is given as 0.366.
    Is this procedure can be followed? Please tell me.

    Thanks in advance,

    Nageshwar.
     
  2. nageshmcl

    nageshmcl Member

    Please help me in understanding this.
     
  3. Busy_Bee4422

    Busy_Bee4422 Ton up Member

    In the solution they have set the situation up like a tree diagram structure though it has been presented in table format. They have made sure to consider only the limbs of the tree that satisfy both non ruin at t = 1 and at t = 2. All other limbs lead to ruin at t = 1 or t =2.

    As we normally do with tree diagrams, all probabilities on one path leading to an outcome are multiplied together. They need not be independent though they maybe. In our case they are not independent.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2009
  4. Busy_Bee4422

    Busy_Bee4422 Ton up Member

    Your method is questionable. For S2 even if it is less than 2.5, if a claim of 2 happens in the first year would that not mean ruin? It seems so to me. I would go with the Q&A method.
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2009
  5. juliewong

    juliewong Member

    Hello...do we add the P[ U(1) < 0] with P [ U(2) < 0] together?
    Thank you.
     
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  6. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    No you only add probabilities if they are mutually exclusive (ie they cannot happen at the same time). You need to draw up a table of combinations where P[S(1)<1.5] AND P[S(2)<2.5)]

    So that gives the following combinations:

    In 1 st time period: 0 claims
    In the 2nd time period: 0 claims, 1 claim (of 1 or 2) or 2 claims of 1 and 1.

    or

    In the 1st period: claim of 1
    In the 2nd time period: 0 claims, 1 claim of 1.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2011
  7. RaViShankar

    RaViShankar Member

    Nice insight zivanaik!!:)
     

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