Peak 2 RL

Discussion in 'SA2' started by misterh, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. misterh

    misterh Member

    On Peak 2 we can use Retrospective or Prospective method to value the WPBR. Does it make any overall difference which one we use or should the total RL be roughly the same. I say this as the Retrospective won't include the future bonuses but the Prospective will but I presume if we use the Retrospective method the bonuses just appear under FPRL instead so the total RL will be the same even if the amounts under WPBR, FPRL and RCL are different.
    thanks
     
  2. Iori_

    Iori_ Member

    WPBR based on the retrospective method uses asset share which takes into account the actual experience up to the valuation date. Prospective method uses best estimate assumptions of the future experience. That is the fundamental difference.

    Hence for an exam type question you could probably discuss each element of retrospective asset share and prospective best-estimate reserves which could impact the realistic liabilities as a starting point to gain some marks.
     
  3. misterh

    misterh Member

    Thanks - I understand the difference but am just wondering where do the future bonuses appear if we are using the Retrospective method? Do they appear in the FPRL instead? Would we expect the total RL to be the same regardless of which method we use? (ie will the differences in the components of the RL balance)
     
  4. Iori_

    Iori_ Member

    Well, if we build up asset shares using actual experience up to the valuation date and if we compare this figure against the future experience then the two will only equal by chance (probably with a very low probability). The extreme case is that if we build up asset shares up to the maturity date of the policy, the earned asset share may not necessarily equal the maturity value depending on the actual vs. expected experience. That is why TB may be applied to aim to pay out +-100% of asset share at maturity.

    There are two thoughts that cross my mind which should help with the understanding:

    1. Calculating surrender value: Remember that a retrospective calculation of SV will not necessarily run into maturity value. I think the idea is similar as SV will be based on the earned asset share.

    2. Equating retrospective and prospective reserves: Remember that these will only equal if the assumptions for calculating the two sets of reserves are the same. This is from CT5. In contrast to this, we have asset shares which are actual experience and prospective reserves need to be calculated using expected future experience. The two may not be equal. Also, when we talk about reserves, we are actually talking about actuarial liabilities/realistic liabilities (if assumptions are best-estimate).


    With respect to future bonuses, I think asset shares only take into account the actual bonuses already declared/guaranteed and these may feed through to the "cost of guarantees" outgo or as part of claims (benefit + bonuses paid/payable).

    Please do correct me if I have some things said incorrectly. Hope this helps.
     
  5. Mark Willder

    Mark Willder ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    Yes, I'd expect the total liabilities to be about the same regardless of whether the WPBR is calculated retrospectively or prospectively. Any change in the WPBR would be reflected by the opposite change in the FPRL.

    The asset share implicitly allows for future bonuses (including terminal bonus). If we intend to pay asset share at maturity then the asset share is equal to the sum assured plus regular bonuses plus terminal bonuses at maturity. So if we hold the asset share as a reserve today, it will grow to be the asset share at maturity (by definition) and we will have exactly the right amount to pay all the bonuses.

    Best wishes

    Mark
     
  6. misterh

    misterh Member

    Ok so by future bonuses we mean future bonuses that have already been "earned" (are part of the asset share already) but not yet distributed (not part of the benefits yet) rather than meaning bonuses yet to be "earned" (projected future gains in the asset share)?
     
  7. trainee104

    trainee104 Member

    Just to make sure I am understanding the above (and the core reading) correctly, is it right to say that when using a prospective method to calculate the WPBR, the FPRL are equal to the sum of the following:

    • Cost of future planned enhancements (i.e. running down the estate)
    • Some financing costs (subordinated ranking below liabilities)
    • Mis-selling costs
    • Tax on FPRL assets

    The remaining items (COG, COS, Cost of Options, Non-contractual TCF requirements, non-subordinated financing costs, shareholder transfers) would only be applicable for the retrospective method as they are all contained within the WPBR for the prospective method?
     
  8. Mark Willder

    Mark Willder ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    The asset share does not change if a bonus is declared. The asset share implicitly allows for the accrued bonuses to date (whether they are RB or TB).

    The WPBR is calculated using best estimate assumptions if calculated prospectively, so it wouldn't include the time value of any options and guarantees. These would still go into the FPRL.

    Best wishes

    Mark
     

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