CT4 & CT6 understanding

Discussion in 'CT6' started by Voodoo_Child, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. Voodoo_Child

    Voodoo_Child Member

    Hi All,

    So I sat CT6 yesterday and I have blatantly failed. I really felt I had a grasp on the subject until I saw the exam, and now I feel like a retard. I also sat CT4 last sitting which I annoyingly FA'd on, even though I felt it was a good paper and had passed.

    When I was in 6th Form, I didn;t have a clue what chemsitry was about. I just didn;t get it. Then my parents got me a tutor and everything clicked into place and I began to understand it all and was even able to adapt my understanding to other scenarios.

    What I'm trying to get at is, what can I do to be able to gain some sort of understanding that allows me to click with these subjects? I know there are people who can do these subjects, and I think its a case of
    1) Understanding/Interpreting the situation
    2) Methodical working of such situations

    Do tutorials really help with such understanding? I've never been to a tutorial, so I don't know.

    Does anyone with relative success or knowledge in these subjects have any input?

    Thanks
     
  2. Catrina

    Catrina Member

    I've only got 3 exams so far (MAYBE 4 if I got CT6 but I'm not confident) so I'm not sure whether my progress can be considered a success (I think I'm doing well enough to not want to give up but bad enough to make me depressed or at least unhappy).

    One thing I know is that I'd NEVER pass any of them without tutorials. I did 4 days worth of tutorials (regular & revision day) for CT3 and passed. CT1 I attempted not having gone to any tutorials and I failed. So they seem to work for me.

    One thing to note with tutorials is that you'll get as much out as you put in. You still have to work as hard as you would without them & prepare enough b4(!) the tutorials for them to benefit you. I also make sure I get every penny's worth of help by asking the tutors about every topic and question I don't understand. Tutorials are also good for receiving eg. additional Acted Qs, a list of proofs or just pointers in the right direction (eg. we were warned that IRMs haven't come up in CT6 for a while and are very likely to be asked again soon - and there was an IRM Q)

    I greatly admire ppl who pass without attending tutorials.
     
  3. fiend

    fiend Member

    I have passed a bunch of exams and haven't done any tutorials yet.

    But even I am considering them because everyone I know who goes to them swears by them.

    I also waste study days a lot. I wake up late go out with friends etc at least these force you to read material and go through questions!

    Don't feel bad about how the paper went it was weird and offputting and they should ensure a consistent standard between papers at each exam sitting. As there are papers I know I would score almost perfectly on and others where I know I wouldn't do as good.
     
  4. Voodoo_Child

    Voodoo_Child Member

    Do any of the tutors have any suggestions???????
     
  5. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    Couple of things help:

    • Understand and learn the subject
    • Practice plenty of past papers

    With the first point studying is the starting point and using our (or your own) flashcards is a good way of memorising this material. Tutorials do help with that because you have tutors who know the material and you can ask and ask until you get it - but I am biased (if your company doesn't pay for tutorials then perhaps you have a mentor that you can regularly sit down with and talk through problems). But chat to other students about the benefit they have gained from tutorials - they'll tell you it straight!

    The second point is essential as questions do repeat themselves (sometimes they're exactly the same but with different numbers!). The best way is to do them in topics - so spend a whole night doing all the time series questions, say. This will help you pick the overall picture for that topic much more efficiently than doing whole papers. The revision booklets and ASET have cross reference grids to help with this. As you get closer to the exam you can then bunch topics together for a nights revision until you work out to complete papers in the last week.

    Does this help?
     
  6. Nossy

    Nossy Member

    Tutorials

    I would definitely recommend tutorials for these 2 subjects!

    There are certain chapters in these courses which can seem very overwhelming but are broken down nicely in the tutorial, and you get the chance to practice past paper questions. Plus the tutor is there to answer any questions you may have so it's a good idea to go along to them knowing any parts of the course you need to concentrate on.

    You also get given tips, e.g. which distributions you should learn, coming up with useful lists, tables, summaries, etc. which are a great way to help plan your revision.

    I know tutorials are v expensive - luckily my Company pays for them... But even if you have to pay for them yourself, I would suggest that at least for CT4 and CT6, they are worthwhile. More so than for some of the other CT's, in my opinion.
     
  7. Voodoo_Child

    Voodoo_Child Member



    • I was asking about the conceptual questions of the 2 subjects, which I have trouble in grasping for certain questions and even trying to think of a starting point for solutions. I would rather be able to construct a solution from first principles (so to speak) than try to regurgitate and amend a solution in previous exams.

      You can take it as a given that most students read the notes at least once and go through past papers as if their lives depended on it, AS I DID! To be honest John, I felt slightly patronised by your comments, and i'm sure (and hope) that wasn't your intention.

      But judging from other students comments tutorials may help me to conquer the questions I have trouble with and give me a better understanding.

      Do Acted offer a money back guarantee?
     
  8. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    Sorry didn't get that at all - hence my general answer.

    I'm afraid with six years experience teaching with ActEd I can assure you that this is not the case! If it was the pass rates would be a lot higher.

    I'm afraid not. Given that a 2 day tutorial makes up only 14 hours of the recommended 125-150 hours work and we have no control over what the students spend the remaining 90% of their time doing it would be a bit foolhardy to do so (particularly given the comment above). However, we will do everything we can to help students pass and certainly this is reflected in our much higher than average pass rates we achieve from students who attend the tutorials.
     
  9. CuiMan

    CuiMan Member

    Tuition

    For those of us who live far far from UK (Aust resident here), is it reasonable to suggest that we are disadvantaged in that we don't have access to tuition session? Most people's feedback, in this forum, on tuition seems to be very positive and those attending it also have a higher pass rate, as confirmed by John Lee.

    Any suggestions on how to improve pass rates for those who can't access tuition? Doing more questions than the UK students?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  10. Intension

    Intension Member

    Has anyone used suggested reading to help cemment the acted literture? If they did how useful were they?

    I have the fear about starting CT6 and CT4!
     
  11. Zebedee

    Zebedee Member

    I'd describe tutorials for the early (CT) exams as helpful but non-essential. For ST and beyond (and maybe CA1 too) they are very helpful in that they provide a chance to discuss the issues with a tutor and your peers. If you don't have access to a tutorial then maybe the following might help:
    - discussions with colleagues also sitting same course
    - use of these boards to discuss ideas
    (answering questions is at least as helpful as asking them)
    - plenty of past paper questions
    - further reading
    - Webinars (http://www.acted.co.uk/Html/tutorials_webinars.htm)

    Good luck!
     
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