april 2011 question 10

Discussion in 'CT3' started by johnpe21, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. johnpe21

    johnpe21 Member

    On the last part of the question, with the poisson distribution, can you please explain me why doesn't he calculate the likelihood as the products of all the distributions? Why does he take only 1 distribution?

    Thanks a lot
     
  2. bapan

    bapan Ton up Member

    Hi

    It does compute using all distributions here. To simplify things, it starts off with one component first and then it invokes the simple algebra that log-likelihood = Sum of each component log-likelihood (see line 4 in the solution)

    You can start taking the whole function and you will see you reach the same place as in line 4.

    Trust this helps.
     
  3. jm_kinuthia

    jm_kinuthia Member

    At some point in the solution, they end up doing a summation but am not sure about their method. However, if you do it the usual way and take the product, it all comes down to the same solution. Try it.
     
  4. johnpe21

    johnpe21 Member

    thanks a lot for the reply !
    Are there any cases that we take only 1 function? If it is asked to find the mle of 1 variable? Or we always calculate it the normal way?
     
  5. bapan

    bapan Ton up Member

    Hi

    I think you (johnpe21) have missed the point.

    In the solution, the examiner is showing that you can simplify your calculations by first computing the log likelihood for the i-th sample point. As all sample points comes from same distribution, the final result will be just the sum of the log likelihood of the i-th sample point (the sum is taken over all values of i from 1 to n). This approach will not work if the sample points come from different distributions like a mixture or some sample points are censored observations.

    You will usually not be asked to derive MLE of an unknown parameter for a given data with 1 sample point ie when n =1.

    PS: Given this is now so close to the exam day, I would suggest you forget this approach to the solution and only think of doing it in the usual way i.e. writing the likelihood for the whole sample. You can never go wrong if you attempt this way.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2012
  6. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    The only exception to this is the binomial - as it is like a mini sample of n in itself. And so sometimes the likelihood is just a single PF.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
  7. johnpe21

    johnpe21 Member

    clear now thanks a lot !
     

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