Annuities payable pthly

Discussion in 'CT1' started by Visakha, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. Visakha

    Visakha Member

    In Chp 6 the derivation for annuities payable pthly isn't clear to me.. Could someone pls explain.:)
    I can slove the sums well enough in this so should i still bother myself with the derivation of the formula in this part? :confused:
     
  2. Tim.Sullivan

    Tim.Sullivan Member

    The syllabus objective says we must be able to derive the annuity formulas (including those that are pthly) in terms of i, v, n, d, delta, i(p) and d(p).

    I believe that it's sufficient here to know that:

    a_n = (1-v^n)/i
    a(p)_n = (1-v^n)/i(p)
    and so on

    I don't think it's a requirement of the syllabus to prove that a_n = (1-v^n)/i.

    Hope that helps (and if I'm wrong somebody better tell me fast!)

    Tim
     
  3. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    We have PV = (1/p)v^(1/p) + (1/p)v^(2/p) +...

    It's just a geometric series with a = (1/p)v^(1/p) and r = v^(1/p) and np terms.

    Hasn't been asked...yet! But the geometric series summation is important for equity questions from Chapter 12.
     
  4. Visakha

    Visakha Member

    Thanks.. I followed the derivation :)

    However I have another query from the same chp
    Q6.8
    Find the present value as at 1 June 2004 of payments of £1,000 payable on the first day of each month from July 2004 to December 2004 inclusive, assuming a rate of interest of 8% per annum convertible quarterly.

    Since the sum mentions "first day of each month" shouldn't we be using A due N instead of A.N. because the soln used A.N.
     
  5. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    First day of each month and last day of each month are pretty much the same thing - so we use either.

    The second alternative solution is an annuity in advance.
     
  6. Visakha

    Visakha Member

    but the answer via the two approaches are different, as in via

    A.N it is : 5863

    A due N it is : 5786

    So it that still acceptable?
     
  7. John Lee

    John Lee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    You've miscalculated your a due n.

    Working in months with a monthly rate of 0.662271% gives:

    1000va_6 due = 5863
     
  8. verma.kunal13

    verma.kunal13 Member

    question 6.8

    Dear Visaka,

    Good day! Could you please help me out in solving question 6.8. In question, we are payments are made in advance. While we use convertible quarterly method, why is the solution given by using A_n rather than A due n. I hope for a discussion soon. I am stuck here.

    Thank you for your time.

    Regards,
    Kunal Verma
     
  9. bhupendra

    bhupendra Member

    dear all,
    i hope u must hv been cleared the solution for Q. 6.8 -CT1
    u can go thru following also-(considering for 1 complete year)-
    PV= 12000*(v^(1/p))* (A due n pthly)
    = 12000*(v^(1/p))*(1-v^n)/d(12)
    putting the numericals--
    i=0.08 (given)
    v=0.923845
    d(12)=0.078950
    p=12
    u'll get PV=12000*0.4886=5863.35
     
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