Potential claims against the UK profession(s)

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  1. whistleblower21

    whistleblower21 Very Active Member

    Having looked at the Equality Act 2010, it appears that people can bring certain types of discrimination claims against UK professions including the Actuarial profession on the following protected grounds:

    1. age;
    2. disability;
    3. gender reassignment;
    4. marriage and civil partnership;
    5. pregnancy and maternity;
    6. race;
    7. religion or belief;
    8. sex;
    9. sexual orientation

    What are your thoughts on the matter
     
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  2. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    My thoughts are that IFoA don't have a complaints process for members regarding the above. Be aware that there is a 3 month time limit for bringing cases to the Employment Tribunal. Therefore don't waste months trying to get IFoA to address such complaints as you'll end up timing yourselves out of making a claim, which suits IFoA very much, as then it doesn't get addressed at all anywhere. Having said that EHRC are particularly keen on gender complaints so that's another option.
     
  3. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    Interesting and unfortunately the only option.
     
  4. ProudActuary

    ProudActuary Ton up Member

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  6. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    Fake complaints process. Nothing to be proud of, proudactuary.
     
  7. ProudActuary

    ProudActuary Ton up Member

    I don't have anything to complain about - seems as if you, almost_there and whistleblower are correcting all the wrongs the profession has ever done. Perhaps in a few years time when you have effected such significant changes you will be rewarded with Honorary Fellowship and we can all be Proud Actuaries together.
     
  8. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    It's a bit like bingo, number 6 ticked off. Wonder which will be next...
     
  9. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    So you condone racism and you’re happy that the IFOA are wasting your money in legal fees and that they’re not following the recommendations of the UK government in the Morris review and that your job is going to be outsourced to India or Africa? You happy to be associated with a CEO that has no problem to lie in an annual report or that your prized fellowship qualification is about to be rendered worthless. The IFOA very close to their next marketing message - the fellowship is worth nothing. The Chartered Actuary would have been good enough...
     
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  10. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    I’d be happy if they awarded me with FIA*. They seem to award that to any Tom, Dick and Harry... or rather Jürgen, Dieter or Helmut
     
  11. ProudActuary

    ProudActuary Ton up Member

    Surely Jurgen, Dieter or Helmut would have to have achieved qualified status in their own country, with a period of supervised work experience in the UK before transferring to FIA/FFA*?
     
  12. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    Do you know what that involves? IFoA never showed anyone.
     
  13. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    The IFOA do say they’ve performed stringent checks to ensure equivalence...
     
  14. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    There are quite a few more complaints if you haven’t noticed...
     
  15. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    They also say they're against discrimination...
     
  16. ProudActuary

    ProudActuary Ton up Member

    Their website certainly suggests they are. If in doubt, why don't you email and ask?
     
  17. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    You miss the point. They've been done for discrimination. Why don't they apologise for what they've been found out for, on their website.
     
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  18. Null

    Null Ton up Member

    Yes I’m not sure what they’re waiting for. it appears they’ve given up defending the discrimination which has now been proven in a court of law and the IFOA are following the argument that the compensation was not very much... the details will be published when the court has determined the outcome. This has not happened yet. As can be seen by articles in the FT and Insurance ERM, you don’t have to wait until the Actuary magazine publishes which will likely be never...
     
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  19. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    Indeed. What makes it worse is they've not owned up to any of the above when findings made against them. It's a hard sell to get members to volunteer their time for such an organisation.
     
  20. ProudActuary

    ProudActuary Ton up Member

    Lots of people volunteer for the IFoA. I don't think it's a hard sell at all. As I mentioned previously, I'm considering applying to be a volunteer :)
     
  21. almost_there

    almost_there Can't stop posting

    Applying to do what kind of volunteering exactly?
     
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