SA7 April 2020

Discussion in 'SA7' started by Binati, Jul 23, 2020.

  1. Binati

    Binati Member

    Any idea what the pass mark for this session is?
     
  2. no_name

    no_name Member

    I failed with 60
     
  3. Jozef Minar

    Jozef Minar Member

    I passed with 63.
     
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  4. ChimpyWizard

    ChimpyWizard Member

    Passed with 62.
     
  5. Colin McKee

    Colin McKee ActEd Tutor Staff Member

    I think that gives us a pretty accurate estimate!?
     
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  6. Binati

    Binati Member

    Yes, I am so disappointed with the result. I sat for the exam in Sept 2019 and got a 60 (missing it by one mark) even though i did not even attempt 15-20 marks! This time I studied even more thoroughly and covered the topics i missed out on before, attempted the FULL paper and was confident to pass! I got a 54!!! I do not understand the marking behind these exams AT ALL.
     
  7. no_name

    no_name Member

    You can request a breakdown of your results (called a "subject access request") and compare your answers to the examiners report (whenever that is published) - may help to see where you went wrong. That's my plan of action
     
  8. Binati

    Binati Member

    Question 2 part v - can someone please explain this to me
     
  9. Jozef Minar

    Jozef Minar Member

    Hi Binati,

    The model solution seems to assume that the performance is flat (so that the exact same return is achieved each year, namely 0.182145 as calculated in (iv)) and that the fee is applied to the start-of-period fund value.

    Under these assumptions, the annual fee is the same percentage each year, namely

    0.02+0.2*(0.18214-0.02) = 0.052428

    (the sum of fixed 2% management fee plus 20% of annual outperformance above 2% per annum, which equals 20% x (18.214%-2%))

    The annual return achieved net of fees is then also constant each year and equals

    0.18214 - 0.052428 = 0.129712

    The accumulated value of the fund after 50 years is thus calculated as

    1000*(1+0.129712)^50 = $445028, which is approximately $450000.
     
  10. Binati

    Binati Member

    I understood that the model solution is assuming a flat rate. I however, had made take the fund as a geometric progression and calculated the charges to the fund as follow:

    2% Management fee

    20% annual outperformance above 2% per annum

    Management fee is charged annually, as 2% of fund value at the end of the year.

    Therefore, first year = 2% x $1000 x (1.182141) = 2% x $1182.141 = $32.4282

    And so on till the 50th year.

    To calculate net management fee paid, we use the formula:

    sum of a geometric progression (Sn) = a((r^n-1)/(r-1))

    Where a = first term of GP

    r = 1 + gross annual return

    using the formula,

    Net Management fee = 2% x $1000 x ((1.182141)^50-1)/(1.182141-1))

    = 2% x $1000 x 27902.5622

    = $558,051.2

    Outperformance = 18.2141% - 2% = 16.2141%

    To calculate net outperformance fee, using similar formula

    a = 20%*1000*0.162141

    r = 1.162141

    net outperformance fee = 20%x1000x0.162141x ((1.162141)^50-1)/(1.162141-1))

    = $647,426.46

    So, net fee = net management fee + net outperformance fee = $1,205,452.6

    Accumulate value of fund net fees = $4,300,000 - $1,205,452.6

    = $3,094,547.39

    Can someone please explain why this is wrong? or what is missing here?
     
  11. almost_there

    almost_there Member

    How did IFoA determine the pass mark? Do we know the pass rate this time?
     
  12. mulita

    mulita Member

    Check or rather determine the pass rate in the Examiners Report.
     
  13. almost_there

    almost_there Member

    92 candidates presented themselves and 36 passed. Pass rate = 39.1%.

    April 2019. 78 attempts 39 passes. Pass rate = 50%.
    October 2019. 85 attempts 37 passes. Pass rate = 43.5%.

    Historic SA7 pass rate = 47% from average 82 attempts per sitting.
     
  14. Zola

    Zola Member

    Hello. I am looking for a (121) SA7 tutor. Does anyone know of anyone that offers these services?
     
  15. Jozef Minar

    Jozef Minar Member

    Binati, I think that there are a couple of issues with your solution.

    Firstly, you seem to assume that the progression of management fee and outperformance fee grows annually by a factor of 1.182141. This was the accumulation factor applicable to fund value without fees, but fees charged scales this down. The accumulation factor for fund value net of fees is

    1.18214 – 0.02 – 0.2*(0.18214 – 0.02) = 1.129712

    Since both of management fee and outperformance fee are proportional to the fund value they will also grow annually by this factor.

    Secondly, you seem to assume that the following equality holds:

    Fund value (no fees assumed) = Fund value (annual fees of ‘2 and 20’ assumed) + sum of management fees + sum of outperformance fees.

    This however does not hold because we would ignore time value of money. Arguably a small fee charged in the first years would grow to much larger value if it was not subtracted and could grow at fund’s rate of return. Going ad absurdum, if the only fee was $1000 at term 0, then the terminal value of the fund would not be $4,300,000 - $1,000 = $4,299,000, but it would obviously be $0 instead. In this case, we should accumulate or discount all values to the same term and the correct rate we should use to calculate accumulated values at term 50 is fund’s gross annual growth rate, 0.18214. Therefore, if we wanted to fix the equality above, we should use

    Fund value (no fees assumed) at term 50 = Fund value (annual fees of ‘2 and 20’ assumed) at term 50+ sum of management fees accumulated to term 50 + sum of outperformance fees accumulated to term 50.


    Thirdly, the small difference between your solution and examiner’s report solution seems to be that examiner’s report assumes that the fee is applied as a percentage of the start-of-period fund value, whereas when you are calculating management fee for the first year you are assuming that the fee is applied as a percentage of the end-of-period fund value. However, in the calculation of sum of fees you seem to also assume that the fee is applied as a percentage of the start-of-period fund value, so I am bit unsure about your assumption here. If we adjusted examiner’s report solution so that the fee is applied to the end-of-period value, then the accumulated fund would become:

    Accumulated fund = 1000*[ 1.18214 * (1 – 0.02 – 0.2*(0.18214 – 0.02)) ]^50 = $291,110


    Now if we follow your approach adjusted for issues/differences described above, we get:

    Management fee is charged annually, as 2% of fund value at the beginning of the year.

    Therefore, first year = 2% x $1000 = $20

    Accumulated value of management fee paid in first year is $20*1.18214^49 = $72,746.5986

    Second year = 2% x $1000*1.129712 = $22.59

    Accumulated value of management fee paid in first year is $20*1.129712*1.18214^48= $69,519

    And so on till the 50th year.

    To calculate the accumulated value of management fee paid, we use the formula:

    sum of a geometric progression (Sn) = a((r^n-1)/(r-1))

    Where a = first term of GP

    r = (1 + net annual return) / (1+gross annual return)

    using the formula,

    Accumulated value of Management fee = $72,746.5986 x ((1.129712/1.182141)^50-1)/( 1.129712/1.182141-1))

    = $72,746.5986 x 20.2138943957

    = $1,470,492.06

    Outperformance = 18.2141% - 2% = 16.2141%

    To calculate the accumulated value of outperformance fee, using similar formula

    a = 20%*1000*0.162141*1.18214^49

    r = (1 + net annual return) / (1+gross annual return) =1.129712/1.182141

    accumulated value of outperformance fee = 20%*1000*0.162141*1.18214^49 x ((1.129712/1.182141)^50-1)/( 1.129712/1.182141-1))


    = $2,384,237.76

    So, accumulated value of fee = accumulated value of management fee + accumulated value of outperformance fee= $3,854,729.82

    Accumulate value of fund net fees = $4,300,000 - $3,854,729.82

    = $445,270.18

    This is consistent with examiner’s report up to the small difference in hundreds of dollars due to rounding error in growth rate. More specifically, we had minor inconsistency between the following three used results - that the Fund value (no fees assumed) at term 50 is $4,300,000, that the fund value at term 0 is $1,000 and that the fund’s gross annual growth rate 0.18214. In fact, if we accumulate $1,000 to term 50 at rate 0.18214 we get $1,000 * 1.18214^50 = $4,299,744 which differs from $4,300,000 assumed by a few hundreds (unsurprisingly, the same order of difference as we observed above).

    Note that even though I managed to ‘fix’ your solution to obtain the same result as is presented in examiner’s report, I would not recommend this approach simply because it is unnecessarily much more laborious than the approach used in the examiner’s report.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  16. Binati

    Binati Member

    thank you, that certainly clarifies my doubts :) I guess I’ll have to appear in September and be qualified then! Sigh!
     

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