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VictorC_Lndn
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I dont get why they made it open book to begin with and are now going after people whose answers sound like they came out of an open book.
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The whole thing is frankly bizarre.
sorry I meant for those who are under investigation (received letters).Hi no examination results you mean for no one it will be released as it's scheduled to come out today.
Hi, A friend of mine has got a letter stating Examiners Report 1995 Paper G. Can anyone help locate this examiners report? Is there such a thing as paper G?
So, let me get this straight, they made the exam book and are now accusing people of cheating when they have no way to prove that the student copied out of the notes (which is allowed regardless) rather than memorising that section of the notes before the exam?
The whole thing seems bizarre. Honestly the profession is going to lose talented people over nonsense like this.
Although copy and paste does not relate to me, I think it’s important for people to distinguish what is in the FAQS is not the assessment regulations. The copy and paste, etc were only added to the assessment regulations in the July update as with many other things from the FAQ. The assessment regs make no mention of the FAQ so I’ve been told to stick to the assessment regulation doc only.Just to clarify, by "copied" I mean to write out something based on the notes you've made and not literally copy and paste. The latter is explicitly banned.
If someone has simply copy and pasted core reading then they should, quite rightly, be investigated.
G is going a long way back. It came before 303 which came before ST3, which was replaced by ST7/8.Hi, A friend of mine has got a letter stating Examiners Report 1995 Paper G. Can anyone help locate this examiners report? Is there such a thing as paper G?
Ha - I said I thought what might happen but heavily caveated what I said. Anyway, the pass mark/rates for the exams haven't been released yet so let's see what the result comes. I don't really understand what point you're making here.I don't understand your point. In the other thread you said bookwork questions would become 'free' marks and IFoA would put up pass marks.
I have to say this concerns me. The rules do state that you should not copy from your notes. They should only be used for reference. However, is it impossible to memorise a definition and quote it in the exam? How do they really know if you copied it or not? I feel like I should get a webcam just in case because this is worrying.
Ha - I said I thought what might happen but heavily caveated what I said.
Surely a practical question has to be asked around this accusation - the student would have had to go through nearly 25 years of past papers to copy an answer from. Think how much time that would waste, incredible. I hope that when these cases are properly investigated the IFoA come to their senses!Hi, A friend of mine has got a letter stating Examiners Report 1995 Paper G. Can anyone help locate this examiners report? Is there such a thing as paper G?
Surely a practical question has to be asked around this accusation - the student would have had to go through nearly 25 years of past papers to copy an answer from. Think how much time that would waste, incredible. I hope that when these cases are properly investigated the IFoA come to their senses!
Surely a practical question has to be asked around this accusation - the student would have had to go through nearly 25 years of past papers to copy an answer from. Think how much time that would waste, incredible. I hope that when these cases are properly investigated the IFoA come to their senses!
I see what you mean but we don't even know if IFoA will accept that as 'evidence'. Seems to me IFoA are on a fishing expedition for 'evidence' without specifying what they would find acceptable to prove one's innocence after IFoA presume them guilty.
I think you are spot on here. They replied to my email where I asked them to call me and all they said was they won't discuss individual cases until after I've sent my evidence in, but they don't give any examples of what evidence would be satisfactory.
I feel desperately sorry for anyone involved. Either there are a lot of dishonest people in the profession who studied hard and well for decades only to throw their hard work away by cheating first chance they got...which seems unlikely to me...or tens/hundreds of students have been accused wrongly of cheating in an open book exam.
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